Je suis d'accord avec vous sur beaucoup de points mais il y a des indices qui vont dans deux sens différents.J'aurais tendance à penser que Saruman avait chuté de lui même (ou du moins, il avait de sérieux prédispositions à sombrer). Différents passages dans les "Unfinished Tales" vont dans ce sens (merci à Idalès pour ces passages clés
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And Curunír 'Lân, Saruman the White, fell from his high errand, and becoming proud and impatient and enamoured of power sought to have his own will by force, and to oust Sauron; but he was ensnared by that dark spirit, mightier than he.Saruman's knowledge that Gandalf possessed the Red Ring, and his jealousy; the view taken of Radagast, that he did not remain faithful to his mission; Then Manwë said that that was all the more reason why he should go, and that he commanded Olórin (illegible words follow that seems to contain word "third"). But at that Varda looked up and said: "Not as the third;" and Curumo remembered it.Il était jaloux de Gandalf pour l'Anneau que Cirdan lui avait donné, il voyait en Sauron plus un rival qu'un ennemi. (Etrange hasard que Curumo fut un Maïa d'Aulë comme Sauron l'avait été... Même Aulë avait "chuté" en quelque sorte en créant les nains.)Mais d'un autre coté, Gandalf pensait que c'était plutôt à cause du palantir:
"But there is nothing that Sauron cannot turn to evil uses. Alas for Saruman! It was his downfall, as I now perceive. Perilous to us all are the devices of an art deeper than we possess ourselves. Yet he must bear the blame. Fool! to keep it secret, for his own profit. No word did he ever speak of it to any of the Council. ""'Easy it is now to guess how quickly the roving eye of Saruman was trapped and held; and how ever since he has been persuaded from afar, and daunted when persuasion would not serve. The biter bit, the hawk under the eagle's foot, the spider in a steel web! How long, I wonder, has he been constrained to come often to his glass for inspection and instruction, and the Orthanc-stone so bent towards Barad-dûr that, if any save a will of adamant now looks into it, it will bear his mind and sight swiftly thither?" The Palantír De plus, Saruman pensait que sa cause était "juste", il voulait le pouvoir pour lui même et ordonner les choses pour le "bien":
"... We can bide our time, we can keep our thoughts in our hearts, deploring maybe evils done by the way, but approving the high and ultimate purpose: Knowledge, Rule, Order; all the things that we have so far striven in vain to accomplish, hindered rather than helped by our weak or idle friends. There need not be, there would not be, any real change in our designs, only in our means.""Why not? The Ruling Ring? If we could command that, then the Power would pass to us..." The Council of Elrond A partir de là, si ce que Gandalf supposait était vrai à propos du palantir, cela voudrait plutôt dire que Saruman était controlé (et non tout simplement manipulé ou trompé) par Sauron qui lui avait fait croire que Saruman pourrait le vaincre avec l'Anneau pour qu'il l'aide à retrouver l'Unique.Denethor, par contre, était manipulé par Sauron qui l'avait poussé au désespoir.
"...He was too great to be subdued to the will of the Dark Power, he saw nonetheless only those things which that Power permitted him to see. The knowledge which he obtained was, doubtless, often of service to him; yet the vision of the great might of Mordor that was shown to him fed the despair of his heart until it overthrew his mind.’" The Pyre of Denethor On peut s'étonner qu'un numénoreen ait eu une volonté supérieure à celle d'un Maïa (réputé qui plus est) pour ne pas se soumettre comme Saruman avait semblé l'avoir fait (du moins, d'après Gandalf qui pouvait peut être s'être trompé et se montrer indulgent envers Saruman)Je me demande aussi si Saruman n'aurait pas trahi de toutes façons même s'il n'avait pas usé du palantir? Jusqu'où va sa responsabilité? Peut on lui accorder des circonstances atténuantes?
